Sat, April 30th, 2005 by Brooks
I don't know if double posting is allowed, but I felt that a post by Susan B. over at Los Angeles Photobloggers was something that everyone should see. It's a true story about copyrights, derivative works, and Flickr. You can't tame the internet, but you can do your best to protect yourself.
Los Angeles Photobloggers
Los Angeles Photobloggers - Copyright Protection
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April 30th, 2005 at 12:05 pm
Thanks for posting, Brooks.
Can I add that if it were not for the efforts of my fellow photobloggers,
(Ed Wenn, Myla Kent, Heather Champ, Miles Storey, Btzera, Bill Vaccarro, Tread-- just to name a few wonderfully supportive folks). This situation might not have been reversed. Through their kind actions, I witnessed the postive power of the internet and the photobloggers.org community. Big hug to all.
April 30th, 2005 at 1:25 pm
Had a similar situation happen to me a while back -- you can follow the discussion, starting here...
http://lists.topica.com/lists/streetphoto/read/message.html?mid=911223699
April 30th, 2005 at 1:30 pm
P.S. As you can see, only the black and white outlines of the images originally appropriated remain on the site in question. Which is fine by me, off course. Would have been fine by me any way he wanted it, had he asked first, and never did ask him to change anything. What irked me was how easy it is to ask me, he didn't, ever, though he had plenty of chances...
April 30th, 2005 at 6:46 pm
Thanks Michal. I can't believe I read the whole thread. It was funny to see the copyright article from my commercial web site discussed there too. By the way, the article was written by Leslie Burns-Dell’Acqua, and she let me use it on a variety of web sites that I designed because I asked her nicely. See how easy that is?
April 30th, 2005 at 7:25 pm
Piece of cake, Brooks, piece of cake. Now that you mention it, lots of other interesting stuff over at Burns Auto Parts. The Manuals for starters...
http://www.burnsautoparts.com/manuals/index.html
April 30th, 2005 at 9:31 pm
Big hug right back at ya, Susan. Was happy to help.
May 1st, 2005 at 6:36 pm
Small world. I know Leslie from an Advertising forum we both belong to. She's a very active advocate for photographers' rights. Good stuff.
May 1st, 2005 at 7:17 pm
I first met Leslie on APAnet. Is that where you speak of Alec? It was a few years ago, but I haven't been around there a lot lately. We still keep in touch though. She's also been showing up on the PDN forums a lot lately too. She does get a bit of flack on PDN for her stance on licensing, but I always try to stick up for her.
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/APAnet/messages
http://www.pdngallery.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi
May 2nd, 2005 at 5:25 pm
This is the very same reason why places like deviantart.com aren't as popular as they were before.. I've had this happen to me (on DA) and there was nothing I could do about it.
I'm glad she found a resolve with the flickr staff.
May 2nd, 2005 at 7:55 pm
By the way, the comment thread on the Los Angeles Photobloggers site linked above has some important info about registering copyrights that folks might want to read.
http://losangeles.photobloggers.org/2005/04/30/copyright-protection/
May 20th, 2005 at 11:52 pm
Susan, i'm really happy you were able to get this taken care of, as yours are some of my favorite photos at Flickr : D There have been numerous discussions at flickr recently about these very issues and I've been saddened to see how many people think you should just roll-over when this sort of thing happens because "jeeze, once you post it on the internet you can't control who takes it anyways."
People need to stick together, and tackle these problems as they happen...at least that way SOME people will get the hint that not EVERYBODY is gonna just slink away with their tail between their legs.